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As Scourge had provided the information that allowed the Emperor to act against the Dark Council, they faced little challenge from the Imperial Guards protecting the palace. The ruse was ended when the Guard captain finally saw Revan's mask, recognizing him as the man who had tried to infiltrate the Citadel years earlier. A battle quickly broke out between the trio of unlikely allies and the formidable and fanatically devoted Imperial Guards.

Surik and Scourge continued to battle the guards as Revan pressed on into the throne room to challenge the Sith Emperor himself. Even though they were outnumbered by skilled opponents, both Scourge and Surik prevailed over the guards and turned to join the fight against the Emperor himself.

Surik saw that the Emperor had all but defeated Revan without even drawing a weapon. She charged to his aid even as Revan was still reeling from being electrocuted by the Emperor's dark powers. Seeing the Emperor take Revan's own lightsaber and prepare to kill him with it, Surik made a choice which would have galactic consequences for centuries to come; rather than throw her lightsaber to kill the distracted Emperor at the cost of Revan's life, she threw her blade only to deflect the killing blow.

It was in this moment that the battle was lost, and Lord Scourge realized that the only way to challenge the Emperor's plot against the Republic was to make it appear as though he had brought the Jedi before the Emperor as a trap for the servants of the Light. Taking advantage of her trust, Scourge stabbed Meetra Surik in the back with his lightsaber, ending her life.

Surik preserved her consciousness after death in order to help Revan through the Force. Though her life was ended, Surik's existence continued in some ethereal form through the Force. With Revan captured by the Sith Emperor to be used as a source of life energy to draw upon, Surik's spirit remained near Revan's body to keep his spirit alive for the centuries he was to be held in captivity. They infiltrated the prison complex, defeated the Sith garrison and freed their target—the Jedi Revan.

Although he was initially displeased with the fact that he could no longer influence the Emperor's mind, Revan was visited by Surik. She urged her former mentor to resume his efforts to kill the Emperor. With Revan's resolve restored, Meetra Surik disappeared once more. Revan outlived Surik by centuries, and remained committed to the Sith Emperor's destruction. The three were guided through the ship by Revan , who sought to see the Sith Emperor finally meet his end.

Once they reached Satele Shan's body, Kira Carsen guided the group in meditation so that they may enter her mind and prevent the Sith Emperor's rebirth. Inside Satele's mind, the Alliance Commander encountered Meetra Surik, who was mocked by the Emperor for failing to kill him. Ultimately, the Sith Emperor was vanquished as all those who he had manipulated and killed over the centuries, Surik included, manifested behind the Alliance Commander to aid in their fight.

With the Emperor defeated once and for all, Surik became one with the Force. A young human female, Meetra Surik inspired loyalty and devotion in her followers. Throughout her life, Surik formed bonds with her comrades, even those who were supposedly her superiors or lesser in rank. It was said that during her training, many fellow Padawans were quick to do whatever she did, and that others disliked her intensely. She was fully aware of what she had done, and tried one last time to convince the Jedi Council of the rightness of her—and by extension Revan and Malak's—actions.

Despite her conviction and understanding of the consequences, she was exiled; in defiance, she stabbed her lightsaber into the center stone of the Council chambers when asked to surrender it. After her departure, her former Master Kavar mentioned that there was much defiance in her.

Following the exile's path, she forsook the company of others, preferring to wander about the Outer Rim in solitude. The wars had left many scars on her, both physical and mental, and she was left with a feeling of regret for what she had done and what she had been asked to do. During her exile, when she heard of the war started by Revan, she wondered if she could have been so blind or if the galaxy was so truly incomprehensible.

She then retreated further into herself, forsaking all Jedi principles excluding one: no attachments. She was even uncomfortable discussing the war and its end with Bao-Dur, her old friend from the war. Her wanderings served to maintain the discipline she had built up during her years of training and suffering the hardships of war. Starting with her meeting of Kreia in the Peragus facility, Surik began once more to form bonds with people she met during her travels, people with whom she had an interest in helping to keep alive so that they, in turn, could protect her.

Eventually she began to realize the leadership role she was destined for, embracing it in order to train the Force-sensitives in her company to become the foundation of the new Jedi Order. Also during this Surik saw it as her duty to help stabilize the Republic in any way possible, reflecting her old sense of compassion and generosity that had initially driven her to war.

Because of her experiences in the Mandalorian Wars, she also understood the nature of war and battle and the hard choices that had to be made when conflict was inevitable. Surik dressed in simple Jedi robes , and possessed a blaster pistol, an armband , and a self-built [3] lightsaber containing a cyan crystal , [24] like the one she used during the Mandalorian Wars. Bao-Dur, the Zabrak tech specialist who served under Surik during the Mandalorian Wars, aided in its construction, having learned the subtleties in the time he spent around Jedi.

The blade found an excellent focusing crystal when Surik visited the Crystal Cave on Dantooine, where she harvested a crystal with very rare properties. The crystal responded to her, drawing on Force energy which radiated from her body and strengthening her in turn, in the way of a Force bond. The bond was such that the crystal matured as Meetra's strength in the Force grew, and it would respond to her alone, making the blade unusable by anyone else.

Kreia would help Surik tune the crystal periodically so that it would best reflect her current self. Surik shared a Force bond with Kreia, possessing a natural ability to form connections with the people around her. Meetra Surik was described as "undisciplined" and "mediocre" by Vrook Lamar while Vandar Tokare described her as "an average student of the Force," [9] though Kavar stated she always possessed a "deep" and "strong" connection to the Force as a Padawan [26] while Revan recalled her being "a powerful Jedi" with recognizable potential during the Mandalorian Wars.

Most notable to everyone around her however, was her unusual ability to influence others, and the Jedi Masters believed that she could form bonds through the Force easily to those around her, an ability she was not consciously aware of. Simply by observing another in action, Surik could instantly learn Force techniques and lightsaber forms that would take a Jedi Master years to perfect.

It was believed by Masters Zez-Kai Ell, Kavar, and Vrook Lamar that this was because of the wound in the Force that surrounded her, which allowed her—like Darth Nihilus—to feed on the death of other life forms to sustain her Force powers. This wound was caused by the Battle of Malachor V, and was what originally blocked her connection to the Force.

It was also because of the nature of such wounds to feed on death that Surik began to regain her Force connection on Peragus II, after all the personnel were killed by HK's machinations. It was this that caused the Masters such fear—both at her trial and after she had united them on Dantooine—as they thought her condition to be not only a threat to the Jedi and the Force, but a threat to life itself. Surik was skilled in the art of lightsaber combat as well as various Force techniques.

Through her informal apprenticeship to Kreia, Surik was able to learn a number of rare and advanced Jedi techniques, including Breath control and Beast trick. Kreia also taught Surik a powerful form of mind reading, where one could read the innermost thoughts of another. Kreia was very impressed with the speed in which she learned this power. She said that most Jedi Masters studied many years to learn the technique. Surik was also proficient in other Force powers, including Force valor , Force resistance , Force whirlwind , and Mind trick.

She also learned many techniques from her companions: Atton Rand taught her to shield her thoughts, Brianna taught her Battle Precognition , Mical taught her an advanced form of meditation , and Visas Marr taught her how to see through the Force.

She also learned Moving Meditation while trying to improve the functionality of her utility droid T3-M4. She learned the light-sided Force technique known as Force Enlightenment , after nearly being severed from the Force by the reconvened Jedi Council, and after Kreia, who had revealed herself as the former Darth Traya, stripped away the Masters' bond with the Force. She was highly skilled in the art of lightsaber combat, utilizing the lightsaber forms Shii-Cho , Makashi , and Soresu , and was known to have used at least one advanced Force technique, known as Force Channel.

She was also proficient in many forms of hand-to-hand and melee combat. At the Telosian Jedi Academy, Surik defeated five of the six Handmaiden sisters in hand-to-hand combat. On Dxun, Surik defeated the two champions of the Mandalorians' battle circle, Kelborn and Bralor , becoming the champion of the battle circle and earning the champions' rights to criticize or praise any Mandalorian who sparred in the battle circle.

Mandalore the Preserver told Surik, with respect, that even with all their martial training, battles and ethics, even the greatest of his Mandalorian warriors were no match for her. Even Bralor commented on her abilities stating that he now saw why the Jedi were able to beat them.

Surik eventually convinced Sion to let go of the Force and to finally allow himself to leave his life of pain and die. As a veteran of the Mandalorian Wars, Surik was skilled in military tactics and the art of war.

Surik was also a very skilled tactician. She served during the Mandalorian Wars and had, by war's end, become Revan's most trusted general, and commanded over half of the Republic fleet during the Mandalorian Wars.

She also proved her tactical brilliance, as well as her natural talents of leadership, after her return from exile, during the battle of Khoonda. On Dantooine, a war had broken out between Khoonda and the forces of the mercenary Azkul. Both Khoonda and Azkul wanted Surik on their side, but she decided to help Khoonda. Before the arrival of Azkul's men to the battlefield, Surik bolstered Khoonda's defenses by persuading several civilians to join the Khoonda militia, healing those of the militia who were injured, planting more mines in the surrounding fields, and repairing damaged gun turrets and medical and combat droids.

Within a matter of mere hours, she had turned a disorganized mess into a powerful army, able to defeat the larger forces of Azkul. Surik was fluent in droidspeak , having worked alongside many utility droids during the Mandalorian Wars. The ramifications of Surik's actions were still being felt throughout the galaxy nearly 4, years after the defeat of the Sith Triumvirate.

The Jedi she trained would go on to resurrect the all-but-decimated Jedi Order. Furthermore, the actions she took on Dantooine, Onderon, and Telos would ensure the solidification of a Republic that, because of the Great Sith War , the Mandalorian Wars and Jedi Civil War, had been teetering on the edge of collapse, prolonging its existence for several thousand more years. During the conflict with the Mandalorians, Surik became Revan's most trusted general and ally.

Her feelings for Revan even extended to love, though not in a romantic way. Rather, she loved him like a brother. Surik would later credit Revan's influence as a factor behind her development into a great Jedi. She eventually found and freed her mentor from captivity with the help of Lord Scourge. Surik then joined him in an attempt to assassinate the Sith Emperor, who planned to consume all life in the galaxy in order to live indefinitely.

Surik, instead of capitalizing on an opportunity to kill the Emperor, chose to save Revan's life during the fight. The assassination plot ultimately failed and Surik was killed by Scourge. While the duel took place, Scourge witnessed a vision of the future through the Force, in which he saw that the Emperor would die by the hand of a Jedi —but that Jedi was neither Revan or Surik.

Hence, he killed Surik in order to feign loyalty to the Emperor. Although Surik was dead, she refused to become one with the Force immediately. Instead, she allowed her spirit to stay with Revan, who had been captured and imprisoned once again. For the next three centuries, Surik's spirit augmented Revan's own strength of will, and thus enabled him to resist the Emperor's powers. After three hundred years as the Emperor's prisoner, Revan was released by agents of the Republic and the Jedi Order.

Soon after his liberation, Revan was visited by the spirit of Meetra Surik. He then realized that it was her presence that helped him to endure the centuries of captivity. After Surik disappeared, a determined Revan vowed to complete what was their ultimate objective—the destruction of the Sith.

Atton Rand met Surik when she first walked into his holding cell area in nothing but her undergarments, he was instantly attracted to her. After she helped him escape and communicated with the utility droid, T3-M4 , Rand commented that it must have been tough considering how she could not have a family or husband. He even went so far as to ask one of Surik's other companions, Bao-Dur, if he had any chance with Surik.

Bao-Dur didn't make a comment at the request and continued his mechanical work on the ship. Things got more complicated for Rand when the crew landed on Dantooine. Surik found her prospective Padawan from years before, Mical.

Their relationship, though completely friendly, enraged Rand with jealousy, causing him to lash out at Mical whenever he simply offered to help. When the bounty hunter and scout Mira joined the crew of the Ebon Hawk , she first noticed Rand's close attention of Surik and Mical, and came close to figuring out his secret.

However, when Surik left to aid the Republic by fighting the Mandalorians, Mical was left without a mentor and thus left the order to work with the Republic as historian and scientist. While investigating the ruins on Dantooine, ten years after the Mandalorian War, he met Surik again. Though at first he denied knowing her, he confessed that Surik did know him from long ago.

Surik regretted causing such a rift in Mical's future and so trained him as Jedi. While traveling with Surik, Mical found himself at odds with the pilot Atton Rand.

Both seemingly desired Surik, although Mical's love was more of admiration of her strength and leadership, which was heightened by her beauty. When Surik attempted to isolate herself after meeting with the three Masters on Dantooine and learning the truth about her powers, Mical sought her out and reassured her, saying that he did not agree with the Council, and that he and the others were there by their own choice.

Darth Sion became increasingly fixated on the Exile whom he saw as his fatal weakness. After stalking Surik for so long, the Lord of Pain grew attached to her, practically falling in love, although he knew that this just weakened him. However, after Sion confronted her himself, he called off his assassins and allowed her to escape.

Later, while in the Trayus Academy on Malachor V, Sion confronted Surik again and told her of his love for her, though he could not describe it exactly, knowing that she must fall if he was to remain strong. Sion gave Surik two choices; to either return to the surface of Malachor and let the planet take her life, or he would kill her himself, as either death would be far more merciful than what Kreia had in store for her should she fail.

However, neither Sion nor Surik were willing to back down, and they battled. After being struck down several times Surik finally convinced him that his struggle was futile, and he surrendered his life. His last words were to tell her that she was Kreia's ultimate weakness, just as she had been his.

At the time of the game's release, the character was known only as the "Jedi Exile," and because players in The Sith Lords could create male or female characters, the Exile had no definitive gender.

In , The New Essential Guide to Droids established the Exile as a female, using the term "heroine" and female pronouns in a number of entries on droids that appeared in The Sith Lords. The novel also reaffirmed Surik's gender and the canon ending of The Sith Lords , and explained what happened to the Exile after the events of the game.

At the beginning of the game, the player may customize Surik's Jedi class, appearance, and name. The player may also choose to play a male or female character. The character's gender affects the makeup of his or her party, with the Echani Handmaiden Brianna joining the party rather than Mical the Disciple if the player chooses the male gender. It also affects the optional romantic subplots, with the male player character able to pursue a relationship with Brianna or Visas Marr.

Hints of a prior relationship between a male Exile and Atris also appear in the dialogue. Surik's Jedi class is as of yet unknown. However, after she helped Queen Talia and the Onderon Royalists defeat General Vaklu and his traitorous forces, Kavar told Surik that he tried to convince her to become a Jedi Guardian like he was, saying that they could have used someone like her.

However, if she was a Jedi Sentinel or Watchman, she would learn the Niman discipline from one of the Masters. According to the official strategy guide for The Sith Lords , should Surik have trained Bao-Dur in the ways of a Jedi Guardian, she would have been able to train him in the use of advanced lightsaber forms and techniques. Following the tradition of the video game Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic , the aforementioned light side story is canonical.

The book also says that Malachor V was destroyed, which only happens in the light side story. The alternate dark-side storyline differs in the fates of the planets that Surik visits; Onderon is usurped by Vaklu, Dantooine is captured by Azkul and his mercenaries, Telos becomes a world of machines due to its Czerka takeover, and Malachor V remains intact.

After a heated argument with the Exile about the Mandalorian Wars, she let the group take the Ebon Hawk and leave. While the Ebon Hawk is in hyperspace, T3-M4 reveals that he sliced into Atris's personal files and has a recording of the Exile's trial, after the end of the Mandalorian Wars.

After watching the trial, T3 reveals that he has the locations of the five Jedi masters who sentenced the Exile, presumed to be the last alive. The Exile sets out in search of these last masters to learn why they exiled her, and what lay in her future. During her travels, the Exile picked up many new companions, most of whom were Force-sensitive.

On Korriban, the Exile discovered master Vash was dead at the hands of Darth Sion, and dueled with the Sith Lord there, but she escaped without injury, although Sion was not harmed either. On Dantooine, the Exile found the Jedi Academy in ruins, and a new government was struggling to hold itself up.

The Exile found master Vrook captured by a group of mercenaries who were planning an assault on the new government. The Exile freed him, although he berated her for doing so.

The Exile was approached by both sides for aid in the conflict, by Master Vrook and the government of Dantooine on one side, and the mercenary leader Azkul on the other. The Jedi Exile also found Mical in the sublevels of the Jedi academ here, studying holocrons. He joins the party if she is a female.

Nar Shaada is overrun with refugees from the Jedi Civil War, and is full of bounty hunters looking to collect the bounty placed on Jedi by the Exchange. A pair of refugees on Nar Shaada will reveal a secret about Atoon's past to the Exile if she is travelling with him here. The Exile will also be invited to a meeting with the local crime lord Visquis, which turns outs to be a trap from which she is saved by the bounty hunter Mira a friend of Zez-Kai Eli.

After a brief duel aboard the Ebon Hawk, the Exile defeated her, but spared her life, convincing her to return to the light. Folowing this, Visas agreed to travel with the Exile, but swore she would not reveal Nihilus's location until she felt the Exile was strong enough to face him. On Onderon, the Exile arrived in the midst of a political strrugle, which forced her to land on the jungle moon of Dxun, the site of a fierce battle during the Mandalorian Wars.

It was upon this moon that she learned of Mandalore Canderous Ordo's goal of reunifying the Mandalorian clans. She helped the Mandalorians with some issues around their camp, then boarded a shuttle for the surface, where she met with Master Kavar, but was forced off-world by an attack from the military, which was at odds with the monarchy. Sometime later, the Exile returned to Onderon, picking a side in the political struggle and fighting in the brief civil war on that planet.

Traya immobilized the Exile and left her for dead, heading to Telos to talk to Atris briefly, then to Malachor V. The Exile boarded his flagship, The Ravager , with a mandalorian strike team. While the Mandalorians assaulted the ship and placed detonation charges to blow it apart from the inside, the Exile, Visas Marr, and Canderous set out for the bridge to kill Darth Nihilus.

On their way they were forced to plant an explosive charge where one group of Mandalorians had failed. Upon reaching the bridge of the Ravager , the group found Nihilus alone.

They dueled fiercely, but in the end the Exile was victorious. Played him like he was going to become a Sith Lord. Because why not? I always wanted to play a Sith Lord but no GM would let me.

I had absolutely no idea what this game was about, I was completely un spoilered. And did it deliver. One would thnk Dark Horse, or the writers would be thrilled, as well as welcome the income. I bet Kevin James Anderson said no. The theme of the Golden Age of the Sith is that empires cannot last under the divisive rule of dark siders, but the dark flame was passed on to fallen Jedi of the modern galaxy.

The retcon goes against that. Michael Kirkbride was a visionary he wrote most of the metaphysical lore in Morrowind. I think Bethesda took a turn for the worse when he left. I mean Skyrim is not that bad. I still play it I just don't do any of the quests I just play it to rp. But yeah I agree the fanatics act like the lore is sacred and cannot be altered or questioned. All this talk about Morrowind is making me want to reinstall it. I once had an idea for Skyrim of some half insane left over Dreamer from Morrowind, who was rebuilding the Sixth House in Windhelm.

That's cool about how Revan got his name and how you named your character. The Jedi on Dantooine think they're so clever they renamed my current character, Raven lol. I had heard the music from the movies, and I love the music. So when I saw a trailer at gamestop and heard the music I was moved.

I must focus on the mod. For the most part it's been keeping with the lore set by the comics. One of them says they will never follow another Jedi after their alliance with Exar Kun. In the comics they served Ulic not Exar Kun. But even before I read the comics and during my playthroughs I had already known a bit of who Exar and Ulic were. I knew Exar Kun had built the first double bladed lightsaber, and due to the description on the Qel Droma robes in K1. I knew Ulic had killed his brother and that the robes had passed on to a relative.

Actually it is technically correct that the Mandalorians were in allegiance with Exar Kun because Ulic was supposed to answer to Exar. Even if Mandalore didn't know at first who Exar Kun was.

Because of the deception practiced by the three- Droma, Kun, and Aleema Keto, and how the war against the Republic was conducted, and the Mandalorians themselves being nearly destroyed, I can't see how the Mandalorians would have allowed themselves later to be tricked again or used by the Sith. They aren't stupid. According to clasical warfare there was plenty of reasons for the Mandalorians to attack the Republic again, which is where Revan comes in decades later.

At that point the Mandalorians would see the Sith and Jedi as being two sides of the same faction and to get entangled with them meant destruction of their clans. Why they attacked the Republic later would be out of revenge, to make the Clans stronger, and simple expansionism as the new clans grew under the new Mandalore. Well, anyways, not to derail this thread completely, can you imagine the Exile being a Hutt enforcer during those years of wandering?

Hanging around places like Tatooine and being a smuggler? That's the beauty of not knowing what the Exile had been doing for the past five years. You can make up whatever you want. I like the idea of an evil aligned Exile working as an enforcer for a Hutt, and who wouldn't hire an ex-Jedi they are known to be tough, and even though Kreia says that when a Jedi is stripped from the Force they are left vulnerable.

The Exile learned how to live without it. That's what makes him unique, and why Kreia sought him out. Before reading the 'Tales of the Jedi' comics and liking how Ulic exiled himself. My backstory for my Exile was that he was a smuggler for the past five years. Since my Exile is good aligned he is still a cocky smart ass, and he has no problem threatening thugs.

That's how I play him even though sometimes when he threatens thugs he may get some DS points. Basically my character is Han Solo when he was cool. Before Disney ruined him. As for the Mandalorians in the comics I liked that Mandalore was very loyal to Ulic. I liked when Ulic's wife betrayed him, and told Mandalore that Ulic had betrayed him.

Mandalore did not believe her and did everything he could to find out the truth. That is how I plan to make Canderous in my mod during the Revan portion of it. Mandalorians after all do have a sense of honor even though we may not understand their methods. But I agree, I can't see the Sith convincing them to attack the Republic.

But maybe just maybe they had a building hatred towards the Republic, and when the Sith came they jumped at the offer? I find the part about any Jedi without the Force to be vulnerable to be somewhat an exaggeration, thought it is most likely the case in more inexperienced or the more run of the mill Jedi trained by the Council.

A seasoned Jedi who has worked any time outside the Enclave, Temple, or the archives, is likely to have some skills to fall back on. I think it is more the case that they adhere so much to the belief that the Force is end all be all and many rely too much on it.

It's the decision to turn away from the Force and have nothing more to do with it is what makes the Exile unique. Although I don't really see in my Exile that it was fear that made him turn away.

He was just tired of Revan and all of the control stuff. Though I don't go with this thing about Revan using Force techniques to make others loyal to him. It's too gimicky. K2 was rather taking license with Revan in a lot of ways, imo, changing what Revan really was, or, what I saw Revan as in K1.

But that's another story. Yeah, that whole thing with Aleema and Ulic never really telling Mandalore about Exar Kun before Exar Kun showed up by holo and bossing everyone around made me feel that the Mandalorians would never trust the Jedi or the Sith ever again, no matter the reason or situation. Just being in an expansionist phase of bringing the clans back after the ruin of the Exar Kun war and having a taste of warring against the Republic, and revenge as well is more than enough for the Mandalorians to rise again, first testing the Republic by invading worlds just outside Republic territories as Canderous said.

In the comics, they had Rohan, the Mandalorian who left the clans, say that the numbers don't add up, the purpose of this character was that Mandalore was taking orders, or at least intel from the supposed Sith Empire. No, no, no. A warrior culture on the rise is expansionist by nature, and to test the target by taking territory just outside the Republic bit by bit is a standard strategy.

The Jedi Council was absolutely wrong in not doing anything about it. Yeah, a Hutt enforcer, a smuggler, or, for a light sided Exile, another option could be working for a medical corps. Volunteer work wherever it was needed among refugees of the past war. Maybe making up in small ways for the destruction of Malachor V. The part about a Jedi being vulnerable without the Force. That's what I assume Kreia meant when Atton asks her he always thought Jedi were supposed to be tough.

I assume he the Exile at that time looked weak. The way Kreia describes it sounds traumatic. I mean look at Ulic Qel Droma in the comics.

When he was stripped it looked painful. Afterwards he thought he would never be of any use to anyone again without the Force. That's part of the reason why he exiled himself aside from reflecting on his war crimes. It's like Darth Sion says the Exile is a broken Jedi.

He also says that the Force is a blade and without it one is defenseless. This is what he tells the Exile on Malachor during their final confrontation. According to Atton even with the Force Jedi are not impossible to be killed by non Jedi. One just has to be smart about it. I always thought that after the Exile had set off the mass shadow reactor on Malachor he was then instantly cut off from the Force? Because he had done such a horrendous act it is like Atris said he had lost himself.

That's what I always believed had happened. He then viewed that as punishment and exiled himself. Like when Ulic killed his brother Cay and Nomi stripped him of the Force. It seems to imply that the Exile cut away from the Force voluntarily at that point.

And Kreia says it was out of fear. Atton's views may be a little colored by his experience. He had gotten to see the Jedi as defenseless because he had gotten adept at killing them. Or at least killing Jedi who had grown up sheltered in the Temple or Enclave. And it's compounded by his desire to atone somehow for killing so many. Plus the Exile is seemingly still cut off from the Force, something that Atton had to be wary of when assassinating Jedi- Force powers.

Still, it was an odd question to ask Kreia about someone who had proven quite adept at fighting through a bunch of droids and Sith on Peragus. Yeah that question that Atton asks Kreia always bugged me. While Atton was comfortable on the administration level.

Even T3 did more than him. I just thought someone could answer me that question. As for when Kreia says the Exile cut himself off from the Force out of fear. I can't recall that. But when I eventually replay the game when I get to the Exile portion of my mod I will check it out.

I need to look up a transcript of all of Kreia's dialogue in the game so I can set the tone for Revan. Since Kreia says the Mandalorians taught Revan and Malak how to be ruthless in war, and I always saw Revan as the manipulator and Malak the muscle.

Kreia kneels by the Exile and says something to the effect of, "Now I understand your choice at Malachor. You left because you were afraid. Excellent comparison. An aside, I get tired of the whole "Malak was an idiot. Revan was sooo much better. Don't even get me started on the Miller comics on how they treated Malak.

Revan and Malak were very complimentary to each other. If Malak was such a moron, why did Revan have him as his closest friend? Malak represents direct action and direct thinking, which is preferable in many situations.

She kneels by the Exile and says something to the effect of, "Now I understand your choice at Malachor. For the first part how can I forget that moment in K2. It is one of my favorite scenes in that game. As for Malak you know like you I am a Malak fan, and if it was possible I would have preferred to save him. But I agree Malak got the short end of the stick. But even in K1 they made Malak seem the dumber of the two.

Even though Malak was the second most powerful Force user in the Sith. I mean there's a reason Revan made him his apprentice besides being old friends.

But I also agree in K2 they did make him sound extremely dumb while glorifying Revan. But characters like the Exile and Kavar who are both known as tacticians in their own right according to the Mandalorians. They should know that in war sometimes direct action and direct thinking is necessary. But don't worry in my mod Malak is not forgotten.

I don't think they did in K1. All humor aside, it was emphasized that Malak was dangerous and was growing stronger. He was a real threat to the Republic. Before the days of Palpatine, I consider Darth Malak to be the most successful Sith Lord because he came so close to conquering the Republic. Master Dorak commented that Malak wasn't the strategic genius that Revan was. Master Zhar said that of the two Malak was the follower.



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